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I wasn't particularly enthralled by the pilot episode of Elementary, the modern American Sherlock Holmes series, but the two eps since then have kind of changed my mind. It's not great, but it's certainly not awful - it's a procedural, with all the attendant good and bad qualities, and not everyone is a white dude.

So far I have two main take-away points:
1. Lucy Liu as Joan Watson is a completely awesome badass and I heart her
2. Joan Watson/Irene Adler (in order to recoup the awfulness of Adler in the BBC Sherlock)
(2a. My mental fancast for Adler appears to have become Gugu Mbatha-Raw, though I remain open to other suggestions)

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Date: 2012-10-20 01:37 pm (UTC)
soupytwist: stephen fry peering round a wall (paul gross arms)
From: [personal profile] soupytwist
I may have to watch some of that! And I totally second your fancasting. I am sad I didn't see her in Romeo and Juliet when that was in my town!

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Date: 2012-10-20 03:30 pm (UTC)
jae: (televisiongecko)
From: [personal profile] jae
Tell me about what was so awful about Adler in Sherlock. I've seen it, but I don't know the original Sherlock Holmes stories, so it was my first contact with Adler and I don't know how she's "supposed" to be.

-J

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Date: 2012-10-20 07:27 pm (UTC)
soupytwist: stephen fry peering round a wall (221b baker street)
From: [personal profile] soupytwist
(Jumping in because I have SO MANY OPINIONS ABOUT THIS and you asked! And I like you! And I hope K won't mind too much!)

Irene in the books is awesome. She is one of the very, very very few (and I think the only one we actually see) people to soundly beat Holmes at his own game. There is no ambiguity about it, either. Basically what happens is this: Holmes has a client who asks him to get an incriminating photograph which is in Irene's possession. Holmes sets up a whole thing to find out where it is (which is a bit silly and at one point he is a witness at Irene's wedding to a dude, haha, but works in as much as Holmes knows where the photograph is). He goes past a young man who calls cheerfully, "Goodnight Mr Holmes!" Then when he goes to get the photograph, it is replaced with a picture of Irene herself and a letter explaining that the young man was her, in men's clothes, and she doesn't intend anything bad with the incriminating photograph but she is not going to stick around to be hassled, so she's gone to live a happy life with her new husband. And Holmes keeps the photograph and forever after calls Irene "the woman".

(Apparently. She's only in that one story. Oh and the 'the' is both grudgingly appreciative of her awesome and resentful, I think.)

In the show, Irene is a dominatrix who beats Holmes with a whip before he totally trounces her because she is a lesbian who is actually in love with him. I am not kidding. A bit more rambling here, and I didn't think it was quiiiiite as bad as that sounds, but it really was pretty bad.

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Date: 2012-10-20 08:15 pm (UTC)
jae: (televisiongecko)
From: [personal profile] jae
Well, like I said in the comment you just responded to, I HAVE SEEN SHERLOCK! But that portrayal was the only context I have for Adler, so I don't know how she's "supposed" to be, so I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. You know?

Thanks for pointing me toward your old post, though; I can see how the changes would be annoying to someone who actually knows the original versions of the stories!

-J

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Date: 2012-10-20 08:53 pm (UTC)
soupytwist: stephen fry peering round a wall (221b baker street)
From: [personal profile] soupytwist
Oh sorry, haha, I absolutely knew you had seen Sherlock but getting my rant on apparently distracted me. *g*

(And oh god I hate the 'Sherlocked' pun! And you know me, I looove puns.)

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Date: 2012-10-21 01:41 pm (UTC)
jae: (televisiongecko)
From: [personal profile] jae
Yeah, okay, I can definitely see that!

-J

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Date: 2012-10-20 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windwoodrose.livejournal.com
That BBC episode with Irene was terrible. My goodness. Second only to the "yellow peril" episode in Season One.

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