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queen of analogue ([personal profile] tellitslant) wrote2006-08-11 11:06 am
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"early" femslash texts

[livejournal.com profile] fox1013's excellent post here asks what people would consider "early femslash texts," and if they even existed. I skimmed through the comments and not a lot of people seem to be touching on that question, so I am throwing it out more widely in its own post because I am really curious.

Xena was the given (and, dude, I just noticed that [livejournal.com profile] brown_betty's fandom chart doesn't even have Xena on, which is odd as there's a very clear Xena to Buffy connection in my mind though I don't know about anyone else), and I came up with Voyager and [livejournal.com profile] quasiradiant with West Wing and the Wing Swing, but those are all 90s fandoms, and we know the m/m "We all started with Kirk/Spock" fanthropological statement. So. Cast your minds back, those of you who can (I, unfortunately, cannot). [livejournal.com profile] cdybedahl suggests that there was Uhura/Rand. Anyone else verify that? I'd be shocked if there wasn't a Charlie's Angels movement or something around Emma Peel, say. *g* Or, hell, Wonder Woman comics, if there was a comics "fandom" as such.

So. First femslash fandom you can think of. Go.

(all this femslash meta! It's like, my god, we do exist! *g* Loving it!)

[identity profile] no-absolutes.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
i'd suggest that the first reading of queer subtext in Nella Larsen's Passing was femslash.

[identity profile] no-absolutes.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
well, the book is Knopf, 1929. if the subtext has been there the whole time, then i'm sure there's been femslash as long as it's been published.

[identity profile] quasiradiant.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm pretty sure you don't count in fandom as a sub-group until you have both meta and wank, so i think we're well on our way. and it's only 2006! fandom turtles are passing us, i think...

too young to answer your question. interestingly, my first fandom was st: tng (yeah, shut up) -- and i remember, even though i was practically a kid, i went looking for troi/crusher fic, and... you know, maybe i was doing it really badly, but i can't remember finding any. at all.

anyway, that wasn't really relevant.

but x-files, the big watershed for fandoms of all kinds? very little girlslash, very poorly regarded from within the fandom. may have been due to a dearth of girls to slash, but. that's never stopped me...

[identity profile] meacoustic.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think there were people who would have produced more XF femslash had there been another female on the show that wasn't one of Scully's relatives during the XF fanfic heyday. I probably would have written more than I did. Monica didn't show up until after I'd quit the fandom. :-(
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[personal profile] ariestess 2006-08-11 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Troi/Crusher was my first femslash pairing/fandom.

[identity profile] sheepfairy.livejournal.com 2006-08-12 01:33 am (UTC)(link)


So, I think I'm too young to remember anything really ground-breaking, but the first fandom I ever found on the internet was Sailor Moon, way back in 1996 when I was definitely way too young to be allowed on the internet unsupervised. But since my parents weren't to big on worrying, there was lots of fic reading, and since the characters on the show where about 95% women a whole lot of it was femslash.

And (keeping in mind this is based totally on personal experience, not any kind of solid numbers) I think that drew a lot of young girls into the online world of fanfiction. I didn't interact that much with the fandom (other than at sailormoon.com, which I seem to remember as more general discussion that fic based), but I could name at least five people that I know in real life who started reading and writing femslash (or, I guess yuri?) there, and for some reason once we got older, people started to move into Harry Potter and all of a sudden it was all about the boy sex, which looking back on it seems kinda weird.

But I'd sorta like to know where all those Sailor Moon femslashers went, because there where a ton of them.

And, um, I guess the point of this is Sailor Moon was definitly not the first, I think it did help kick-start a new generation.