tellitslant | "early" femslash texts

fox1013's excellent post here asks what people would consider "early femslash texts," and if they even existed. I skimmed through the comments and not a lot of people seem to be touching on that question, so I am throwing it out more widely in its own post because I am really curious.

Xena was the given (and, dude, I just noticed that

brown_betty's fandom chart doesn't even have Xena on, which is odd as there's a very clear Xena to Buffy connection in my mind though I don't know about anyone else), and I came up with Voyager and

quasiradiant with West Wing and the Wing Swing, but those are all 90s fandoms, and we know the m/m "We all started with Kirk/Spock" fanthropological statement. So. Cast your minds back, those of you who can (I, unfortunately, cannot).

cdybedahl suggests that there was Uhura/Rand. Anyone else verify that? I'd be shocked if there wasn't a Charlie's Angels movement or something around Emma Peel, say. *g* Or, hell, Wonder Woman comics, if there was a comics "fandom" as such.

So. First femslash fandom you can think of. Go.

(all this femslash meta! It's like, my god, we do exist! *g* Loving it!)

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i'd suggest that the first reading of queer subtext in Nella Larsen's Passing was femslash.

Can you give me a date on that?

well, the book is Knopf, 1929. if the subtext has been there the whole time, then i'm sure there's been femslash as long as it's been published.

Ah, see, I'm thinking specifically about texts around which a fandom or some sort of fannish experience was formed. Because obviously the works have been there, it's just the interpretations that I'm wondering about.

i'm pretty sure you don't count in fandom as a sub-group until you have both meta and wank, so i think we're well on our way. and it's only 2006! fandom turtles are passing us, i think...

too young to answer your question. interestingly, my first fandom was st: tng (yeah, shut up) -- and i remember, even though i was practically a kid, i went looking for troi/crusher fic, and... you know, maybe i was doing it really badly, but i can't remember finding any. at all.

anyway, that wasn't really relevant.

but x-files, the big watershed for fandoms of all kinds? very little girlslash, very poorly regarded from within the fandom. may have been due to a dearth of girls to slash, but. that's never stopped me...

*nods* Yeah, I was in TNG too, and one of the only Troi/Crusher fics I remember at all was actually a threesome with Riker. Possibly there were more that i read that didn't make an impact, but I sure don't remember there being, sadly.

And I find the lack of X-Files slash disturbing. See, that's a show that's kind of comparable to Doctor Who in that the m/f partnership is the real driving force, Scully is a wonderfully strong character, so on. So I guess it just does go to show that femslash is so on the rise (better late than never) if a show like Who can get better at hitting it out of the park than XF did. Huh.

I think there were people who would have produced more XF femslash had there been another female on the show that wasn't one of Scully's relatives during the XF fanfic heyday. I probably would have written more than I did. Monica didn't show up until after I'd quit the fandom. :-(

Troi/Crusher was my first femslash pairing/fandom.

So, I think I'm too young to remember anything really ground-breaking, but the first fandom I ever found on the internet was Sailor Moon, way back in 1996 when I was definitely way too young to be allowed on the internet unsupervised. But since my parents weren't to big on worrying, there was lots of fic reading, and since the characters on the show where about 95% women a whole lot of it was femslash.

And (keeping in mind this is based totally on personal experience, not any kind of solid numbers) I think that drew a lot of young girls into the online world of fanfiction. I didn't interact that much with the fandom (other than at sailormoon.com, which I seem to remember as more general discussion that fic based), but I could name at least five people that I know in real life who started reading and writing femslash (or, I guess yuri?) there, and for some reason once we got older, people started to move into Harry Potter and all of a sudden it was all about the boy sex, which looking back on it seems kinda weird.

But I'd sorta like to know where all those Sailor Moon femslashers went, because there where a ton of them.

And, um, I guess the point of this is Sailor Moon was definitly not the first, I think it did help kick-start a new generation.

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